NEW WILD AIR TERRAIN PARK!!?
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mattchuck2
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I heard they're moving the Terrain Park to Wild Air and taking out the one on Sleighride . . .
fujative.
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^Seriously. I hear they're widening it to the widest the trail is aloud to be, but with the poles that's still retarded.
Also, I heard they're not ordering any more new rails or box's. Sleighride was empty enough as it is, and a lot of our rails and box's got destroyed by groomers. Also, I guarantee they won't be blowing any more snow for jumps than previous years, so jumps aren't going to be a space filler either.
Basically what they should do is use the widened side of the trail for a good jump line, and build something actually bigger than 20 feet. Get in-house welders to make a few new rails, and use the narrower side of the trail for a jib park.
...And actually hire me, and have Jason listen to me
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Also, I heard they're not ordering any more new rails or box's. Sleighride was empty enough as it is, and a lot of our rails and box's got destroyed by groomers. Also, I guarantee they won't be blowing any more snow for jumps than previous years, so jumps aren't going to be a space filler either.
Basically what they should do is use the widened side of the trail for a good jump line, and build something actually bigger than 20 feet. Get in-house welders to make a few new rails, and use the narrower side of the trail for a jib park.
...And actually hire me, and have Jason listen to me
:evil:
Our little hill where I ski the most basically turned the park over to a 18yr old...(he could be 19). 07/08 it was the best ever (not saying too much, but much better than most other dinky areas), this year, 08/09, mgmt committed to blowing snow on it BEFORE we actually opened (duh) and with his welding shop and carpentry buddies---the place rocked. I do not have access to budgets....but this was done on a dime in comparision to the cash the area brought in.....
We have 1/5 the "park area" Gore has and had features that 5 yr olds were hitting, all the way up to monster walls...a thong like device that was 12' in the air, rails, butter boxes, stumps (yes real stumps), tires, little jumps, mediums and then the big boys.
We have 1/5 the "park area" Gore has and had features that 5 yr olds were hitting, all the way up to monster walls...a thong like device that was 12' in the air, rails, butter boxes, stumps (yes real stumps), tires, little jumps, mediums and then the big boys.
I:)skiing said:
that puts Gore's to shame. shame also is the patrons are getting short changed and Gore's coffers are being short changed. more jumps,even little ones, spead around the hill would rock. kids love 'em! and all they take is snow.....it's sad.
one can only chalk it up to a bad management attitude.
I have to say that I was quite disappointed in seeing Gore's "park", as was my son, age 3.5 at the time. I had not skied Gore for 5 yrs and was expecting a whole lot more, given how most other areas are going crazy with parks. My son being fully amazed at the size of Gore, the gondi, the everything bigger..and snow in the woods as opposed to the rocks and leaves we see in the south...said of the T-park as I carried him through it..."But daddy, where are the fun things and all the people?" For those lurking...Gores T-park trail is a more narrow, blue or blue/green. Too steep/narrow for a 3.5 yr old to ski it and not piss everyone and their brother off.
.....out of the mouths of babes.
.....out of the mouths of babes.
mattchuck2
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Pic of trail widening for the Wild Air Park (from the website):
Lbtchnlgs
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There's no good place for a park at Gore. This place is going to be full of gapers who have no idea what they're doing because it's at such an accessible place; also most people that ski the lower mountain are beginners who don't understand the respect side of skiing/riding.
I just really hope Gore finally makes one of their "big steps" to making a safe, constant reliable terrain park.
As for the lift tower statement; ski at your own risk; I imagine they will have park at skiiers right and cut the trail in half with a fence, using the towers as a guide. If you suck enough to hit a ski tower, then good- at least it's one more dangerous aspect off of the mountain
Experienced some frost a couple days ago up in Caroga. :twisted:
I just really hope Gore finally makes one of their "big steps" to making a safe, constant reliable terrain park.
As for the lift tower statement; ski at your own risk; I imagine they will have park at skiiers right and cut the trail in half with a fence, using the towers as a guide. If you suck enough to hit a ski tower, then good- at least it's one more dangerous aspect off of the mountain
Experienced some frost a couple days ago up in Caroga. :twisted:
mattchuck2
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Yeah, I'm hoping that there will be a good place for a dedicated park at the Ski bowl when they get the interconnect going. If they can cut a wide enough trail that is accessible from the new lift that they'll be installing next year, ideally you'll be able to go right from the park to that icy abortion that they call a halfpipe. It should be pretty good for laps, and hopefully they'll have enough pitch on that ridge to get something good running (Similar to Jiminy's park on the far skier's left side of the mountain).
I still favor the Killington's "The Stash" model, though:
The Woods are the Goods.
Shredding in the snowy woods has always been the purest experience in snowboarding, the roots of freestyle. Jake and the Burton Team have teamed up with Killington and 4 other resorts worldwide to create the evolution of freestyle snowboard parks in the ultimate natural environment: The Stash. Taking advantage of natural terrain, local wood products and all the creative elements the mountain has to offer, The Stash will take your freestyle riding to the next level. From rainbow log jibs and misty road gaps to hidden pow slashes and fast banks, The Stash mixes the best of every trail into one, wooded run that will test your riding flow. And better yet, The Stash was developed with the future of the mountain environment in mind. From the re-use of local trees and found objects to on-hill recycling, The Stash is designed to have more impact on your riding and less impact on the environment. Find your own line and take your freestyle riding to where the woods are the goods: The Stash.
I still favor the Killington's "The Stash" model, though:
The Woods are the Goods.
Shredding in the snowy woods has always been the purest experience in snowboarding, the roots of freestyle. Jake and the Burton Team have teamed up with Killington and 4 other resorts worldwide to create the evolution of freestyle snowboard parks in the ultimate natural environment: The Stash. Taking advantage of natural terrain, local wood products and all the creative elements the mountain has to offer, The Stash will take your freestyle riding to the next level. From rainbow log jibs and misty road gaps to hidden pow slashes and fast banks, The Stash mixes the best of every trail into one, wooded run that will test your riding flow. And better yet, The Stash was developed with the future of the mountain environment in mind. From the re-use of local trees and found objects to on-hill recycling, The Stash is designed to have more impact on your riding and less impact on the environment. Find your own line and take your freestyle riding to where the woods are the goods: The Stash.
Lbtchnlgs
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mattchuck2 said:
Has anyone been in Killington's stash? I took a run in Keystone's wooded terrain park and while its pretty cool, it's hard to keep maintained due to lack of grooming. It's hard to keep it smooth when your dodging rocks, half buried trees and negotiating super hardpack berms. Great idea though, I guess you just have to time it right after a storm. I find the local stashes much much more enjoyable
Psizzle123
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me and my brother actually hit up killy's "Stash" this past winter. i had high expectations approaching this trail and was not disappointed. besides the large array of log rails, stumps, and natural features, there's also numerous sculptures and wooden homes smack in the middle. there was actually a jump with a wood base just under the snow. just skiing down the trail is pretty exhilerating.
heres an edit from the day including some footy of the stash
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fujative.
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They're not cutting the trail in half with a fence. That would be a ton of unnecessary work. It's going to be park full width, with the exception of skiers left from lower sleighride to stokes, and even there are going to be a few little hits for the kiddos. I walked the trail before they started doing the widening with Jason O'Hara, the guy who runs the park there, and helped plan it out. It was pretty much horrible for a park before they widened it but now (I hiked again yesterday), it looks like it's going to be pretty legit. There aren't going to be a whole lot of jumps under the gondola area anyways.. I think we have it planned where there is only one about half way down on skiers right where there is a decent natural landing. The rest are way down bottom where stokes splits off.
We're putting in to get some metal to start building our own rails (WAY cheaper), and only having a couple things pre-made for us. If nothing gets approved, we're in for one EMPTY park for how big the trail is. If they actually do, we're in for a semi-respectable park.
We're putting in to get some metal to start building our own rails (WAY cheaper), and only having a couple things pre-made for us. If nothing gets approved, we're in for one EMPTY park for how big the trail is. If they actually do, we're in for a semi-respectable park.
mattchuck2 said:Pic of trail widening for the Wild Air Park (from the website):
well the "hump" of dirt they left around that first tower might make a good launch, though the snow base may cover it flat. looks like they removed a fair amount of dirt on parts of the original Wild Air.
Where I believe this photo is taken...this is PERFECT for the kids and over 40 crowd---...1 foot jumps, rollers, plastic pipe at snow level.
Looks like Fujutive knows of what he speaks. Guess my only comment to tons of features is.....you got to have money to then STAFF the park and get those features open or at least 3/4 of them at any given time.
Nothing worse than a park with closed features.....NOTING, I fully understand they do not want to open a feature with an improper approach or landing, but this takes time, sometimes lots of it.
Looks like Fujutive knows of what he speaks. Guess my only comment to tons of features is.....you got to have money to then STAFF the park and get those features open or at least 3/4 of them at any given time.
Nothing worse than a park with closed features.....NOTING, I fully understand they do not want to open a feature with an improper approach or landing, but this takes time, sometimes lots of it.
fujative.
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Harvey44 said:
Yeah, it's definitely steep enough. The more flat parts are better for rails and other jibs. There are a couple of nice natural rollers that will make a good foundation for a landing (although I think some of them might be getting regraded by the excavator. For better or worse I'm not really sure.). Down at the bottom where stokes goes straight and wild air goes right is where the bigger jumps are going, so we're going to have to use quite a bit of snow on the flats there.
sounds like Fuja is working/inputting ideas w/the park personal. not only is that cool but it could produce an improved product. Two heads are better than one. Fuja is supposed to be a top Park Gnome at Gore and should have good ideas. just don't make them all expert so to speak as others and the wee ones need some tamer stuff and that is necessary for all to have successful park experience. that should be a goal.
oh yeah. build a dang spine!!! even lil ones like Face has here unt there. I NEED A SPINE! (that didn't come out to good!!??)
i really hope this is finally the answer to Gore's lame azz park. Face has plenty of nice features. Gore can too. it's friggin way over due.
one benefit we've overlooked to the new location is the vantage point Gondi riders will have. it's fun watching people risk their booty as they fly around bustin mad moves. 'Sides, as Matt once said....Wild Air was lame.
oh yeah. build a dang spine!!! even lil ones like Face has here unt there. I NEED A SPINE! (that didn't come out to good!!??)
i really hope this is finally the answer to Gore's lame azz park. Face has plenty of nice features. Gore can too. it's friggin way over due.
one benefit we've overlooked to the new location is the vantage point Gondi riders will have. it's fun watching people risk their booty as they fly around bustin mad moves. 'Sides, as Matt once said....Wild Air was lame.
While looking at both the really good parkers and the really bad parkers is a blast from any spot. The Gondi view will be nice. This is not a complaint---but if I were asked...I'd rather be on a chair....you get to cheer and yell...."go for it" Or....."ahhhhhhh" when the pipe lands where it should never be on a male.
